Talk:M12-L Kimogila Fighter Expansion Pack/@comment-87.113.203.102-20170909092043/@comment-454133-20170926191931

A couple of points:


 * Torani's ability happens after her attack has fully resolved, not during.  So stripping the tokens affects future attacks from your allies, or weakens the enemy's attacks.


 * I know of no abilities that allow "spending" nothing for something, and I never claimed that was the case (please reread my previous post if that's unclear; I don't want to be misunderstood).  I'm making a clear distinction between "spending" vs "discarding" & "modifying".  You are allowed to discard nothing (Old Teroch), and you can modify zero results (Keyan).  But you cannot spend nothing to get an effect -- you can't spend a lock or focus token you don't have.  That's why I brought it up, it's a clear-cut example where you don't get something for nothing.  You cannot "spend" resources you don't have, it's a special keyword that explicitely requires the resource.  Discard and Modify are different.  I'm not claiming anything different either here or in my previous posts.

Keyan Farlander remains a great example of both. If he has no stress tokens, he cannot spend a stress token for his ability. If he does have a stress token, he can spend it even if he has zero focus results to modify. That's why I brought him up before: he's a clear example of why "spend" and "modify"/"discard" are distinct, and a clear example of when "zero" is a valid number.

What this card needs is to explicitly tell us whether zero is a valid number, but FFG seems to be assuming that's obvious, as they do with a lot of their wording. An example of mostly careful, clear-cut wording is Ion Discharger. There's relatively little serious ambiguity in what the card does, in what choices and effects each player faces. I wish more cards were like that. A wording-disaster card (which we will not discuss here -- take it to the FFG forums) is Targeting Synchronizer.