Talk:Emperor Palpatine/@comment-37.9.184.181-20180218200625/@comment-29680667-20180221165210

Its not clear what is meaned by "used".

I have always played, and seen it played, as Palp is called prior to rolling dice. This requires a die to be modified, which will take place in the modify dice step. The player can choose which order to modify their dice in, so they could use a TL prior to changing the Palp die.

However, I do see the argument otherwise (making it work like HLC).

They way I have played makes Palp more powerful, and the other was less powerful. Of course both are less powerful than the pre-erratta version.

I think the key could be in understanding the timing of lightweight frame. That card also happens after rolling defense dice. Is that in the modify dice step? The FAQ states that if Palp is used on the initial roll, it cannot affect the additional die. Is this because the modification happened before the additional die was rolled? Or is it for a different reason, but the modification doesn't occur until after the die is rolled (but without the ability to affect that die)? My guess is lightweight frame happens before the modify defense dice step, because otherwise the attacker could only modify the initial set of dice. Which would suggest to me that Palp happens before the modify dice step (and that I have not been playing Palp as intended).